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« on: June 02, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »


Wall Street Journal reports that gaming publisher, Electronic Arts, is planning on launching a digital-game download service called Origin. Similar to Valve's Steam service, gamers can buy and download PC titles onto their computer. Origin is reported to be launching with over 150 titles, although no specific names have been mentioned except one. In what seems like an effort to hopefully ensure Origin's success, EA plans on making Origin the exclusive online place for gamers to buy Star Wars: The Old Republic when it comes out.

Like Activision's new Call of Duty Elite service, Origin is reported to have a social networking aspect to it where gamers can access their profile across different platforms, including mobile devices. They can also friend other users and send messages to users with different devices, although no specific ones have been mentioned. Accessing Origin from different devices may have an impact on the PC games. For instance, David DeMartini, EA's senior vice president of global online, gave the example of being able to play a mobile mini-game of Battlefield that would give experience points in the real game.

EA's recent purchase of the social-networking gaming company Playfish, the development of Dragon Age Legends, and now the announcement of Origin, it seems that EA plans to take on digital and online gaming.

Since Origin is going to be in competition with Steam, which offers various EA titles, I wonder if we're going to see a lot of EA games being pulled off of Steam as Origin gets around to being launched. It will be interesting to see Origin's functionality when it launches to see if it even has a hope of competing with Steam.

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 09:38:30 PM »

My question is why? why try to fight steam? going up against Valve they must be crazy.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 09:40:46 PM »

Well, I don't think it's specifically their intent to go against Valve. I think EA just wants to expand into the online and digital distribution market, because that's really a huge chunk of where future PC gaming (and profits) lies.

However, if they want Origin to take off at all, even by offering TOR only exclusively on their new digital distribution service, they're going to have to pull their titles off of Steam, or offer them at rates that are competitive to Steam's prices that would make people want to buy from Origin, and not Steam.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 09:52:59 PM »


However, if they want Origin to take off at all, even by offering TOR only exclusively on their new digital distribution service, they're going to have to pull their titles off of Steam, or offer them at rates that are competitive to Steam's prices that would make people want to buy from Origin, and not Steam.

I believe this will be thier goal. Seeing as Steam has no control on when games actually go on sale. They must first contact the makers to get the ok to place their game on sale. With EA having its own market they are free to choose at their choice when to make the sales and not. Like you stated that seems to be the only way they would have a +1 up on steam in terms of digital sales. However steam has the friends list and the community already done so that will still stand out from whatever comes in any terms of PC online platforms for buying games. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 09:57:18 PM »


However, if they want Origin to take off at all, even by offering TOR only exclusively on their new digital distribution service, they're going to have to pull their titles off of Steam, or offer them at rates that are competitive to Steam's prices that would make people want to buy from Origin, and not Steam.

I believe this will be thier goal. Seeing as Steam has no control on when games actually go on sale. They must first contact the makers to get the ok to place their game on sale. With EA having its own market they are free to choose at their choice when to make the sales and not. Like you stated that seems to be the only way they would have a +1 up on steam in terms of digital sales. However steam has the friends list and the community already done so that will still stand out from whatever comes in any terms of PC online platforms for buying games. 

Very true. However, EA plans on doing the same with Origin, I believe.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 10:03:41 PM »

That could get VERY annoying IMO, if every Publisher wants to make a Steam Community type program.  Having 7 different programs functioning the same splitting up all the players.  It's nice having everyone using the same program now....  Then again, that's just me speculating.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 10:43:47 PM »

That could get VERY annoying IMO, if every Publisher wants to make a Steam Community type program.  Having 7 different programs functioning the same splitting up all the players.  It's nice having everyone using the same program now....  Then again, that's just me speculating.

That's something I was thinking about too...

It's why Origin is going to be something pretty hard to get players to hop on board with, especially since EA's probably going to have to pay off other publishers to make them offer their games on Origin.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 01:11:04 AM »

What the fluff do they plan to do with EADM(Electronic Arts Download Manager) then? Knuckle Heads.. in desperation biting off more than they can chew will cost them lazy dog. Their EADM is on the rocks, I should know, I'm stuck with it, I have games in it that have trouble running every fluffin time.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 09:16:42 AM »

EADM already have a friends thing. So that's already done for Origin.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 10:02:31 AM »

EA's tried to do this entire thing before and failed miserably actually...
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 10:03:38 AM »

You all know that Origin Beta is out?
Just got notified that it needed to restart for a update, and there it was. Origin Beta.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 12:31:05 PM »

Yeah, apparently now EADM is Origin. You can connect to friends and all that random nonsense, basically a shallow copy of Steam. This D2D war is becoming awesome, this is the best year after 2007.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 12:53:29 PM »

This would be interesting to watch and see how things come about.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 02:02:05 PM »

You all know that Origin Beta is out?
Just got notified that it needed to restart for a update, and there it was. Origin Beta.

And there it was. Steam 2.  Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 01:40:18 AM »

Alrighty then, Origin is just EADM re skinned, that's it. Period. There is no rocket science involved and no "Deep" review to do. Its the same EADM, same shitty problems, same shitty service. They just re skinned it for E3, the cheap pricks.
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 04:41:42 AM »

Alrighty then, Origin is just EADM re skinned, that's it. Period. OThere is no rocket science involved and no "Deep" review to do. Its the same EADM, same shitty problems, same shitty service. They just re skinned it for E3, the cheap pricks.

Yes and no. Origin is mostly EADM, but EADM never really tried to compete with Steam. They're trying to push it towards competing with Steam now since EA's recent actions show that it is really interested in expanding its digital and online sales (as is every publisher now) because thats where the future of gaming lies. Steam's been doing it right, so EA is trying to copy their format and add a few new things tthat Valve hasn't gotten around to touching like cross platform integration, particularly with mobile devices. And since EA already had the means with the EA story, EADM, and their Scrabble thing for mobile, they thought "why not" and decided to fuse it all together into one thing. It would've been a smarter business move if they had released the beta with more content, achievements, and better perks than Steam.... and especially showcase the new things that Origin's got that Steam doesn't so that users will think... hey that's decently cool. I might keep Origin arouns, but I won't go uninstalling Steam just yet. But they didn't. Maybe that's what TOR's exclusivity on Origin is for... so that when they fully launch Origin, everyone will be forced onto it with TOR and they'll think it's cool enough to keep around, which is a start to compete with Steam.
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 05:45:59 AM »

Alrighty then, Origin is just EADM re skinned, that's it. Period.There is no rocket science involved and no "Deep" review to do. Its the same EADM, same shitty problems, same shitty service. They just re skinned it for E3, the cheap pricks.


Yes and no. Origin is mostly EADM, but EADM never really tried to compete with Steam. They're trying to push it towards competing with Steam now since EA's recent actions show that it is really interested in expanding its digital and online sales (as is every publisher now) because thats where the future of gaming lies. Steam's been doing it right, so EA is trying to copy their format and add a few new things that Valve hasn't gotten around to touching like cross platform integration, particularly with mobile devices.

And since EA already had the means with the EA story, EADM, and their Scrabble thing for mobile, they thought "why not" and decided to fuse it all together into one thing. It would've been a smarter business move if they had released the beta with more content, achievements, and better perks than Steam.... and especially showcase the new things that Origin's got that Steam doesn't so that users will think... hey that's decently cool. I might keep Origin around, but I won't go uninstalling Steam just yet. But they didn't. Maybe that's what TOR's exclusivity on Origin is for... so that when they fully launch Origin, everyone will be forced onto it with TOR and they'll think it's cool enough to keep around, which is a start to compete with Steam.


EA is not challenging Steam, nor is it competing with Steam. The contract with EA and Steam which was made after they both broke off from PC Gaming Alliance somewhere around 2009(not sure of date) was in accordance to the release of all new titles from Steam, but..here's the catch, since the products belong to EA, EA would get first dibs, like they did with BF3. BF3 is available for Pre-order on EADM/Origin but not on Steam. BF3 will be available on Steam right after E3 or the BETA, watch out for that.

My dear lady, this is not Microsoft where releasing achievements and special perks will get more people to join. PC Gamers are a smart and crafty audience, hence the most difficult to attract and please. They have an opinion about anything related to PC Gaming. I have seen it. They don't care two hoots about achievements/trophies. They believe in paying once, no matter the price and getting every little bit of content from the game that the Dev's can dish out. Mod's, map packs, character customization....the whole nine yards and then some. ArmA 2 is a good example.

http://www.bistudio.com/

That site is an ocean, been at it since ArmA 2 released in 2009 and still I haven't covered every corner of it. People upload Gigabyte's of new content every week on the modding section.

Like in the Podcast, fighting with Steam would be more like EA shooting itself in the face than in the foot. Because if they can't see or think straight, they don't need the face/head. EA has been moving on to more handheld devices, I agree with that, with the launch of BC2 on Android and other handheld devices its only evident that EA wants to get into the digital market while its still open. Steam will not be bothered, because most PC gamers rely on Steam and they will continue to do that, sure some bitch about Steam, even I do at times, but when a new Publisher/Developer comes into the market, I take Steam's side, why? Because taking all their mischief and stunts, they know what they are doing.

The only reason that they upgraded Origin is because of E3, DICE, BF3 to name a couple of reasons. EA is setting the standards for gaming, it always did, it did it with Bioware with Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series in terms of RPG games, did it with Command and Conquer with West wood studios, set the standard for RTS games. Tiberium Wars is the most played RTS game in history, online and offline. Other RTS developers yet to have recover from that shock. Heck it even set the graphics grade with Crytek and their Cry engine 2 in Crysis in 2007. It can sell twice as many games using Origin and Steam, it will use Origin to sell games at local price(with profit) and also use Steam to sell at an International stage, add on the DLC and other stuff and the company make's tons of profit, EA is not a company, its a Whale. A big one at that.

EA gobbles up any company that ever associated with it. I read their history, its a bloody massacre.

Star Wars: The Old Republic is only a spec of dust in the grand scheme of things that EA has planned. I have seen such tactics before, the gamers are the ones who lose big. This is only just begun. EA will use Steam to corner the market and will stop any other Publisher/Developer from entering the Digital Distribution market. If Steam is not aware/careful, it might end up as a subsidiary for EA.

Never kill the goose that lays the golden egg. I wouldn't.
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